If you want you may mention an unnecessary word "slave" to the totally irrelevant section of "Origin and early life" but trust me you'll spent your whole life (and next one as well if you're a monk) reverting the changes made by those who have problem with this piece of word. Webmahidevran. All these authors could've have used this phrase simply because they didn't know what the real father's name was, like I said "this name was and is very common for any royal family as well as a common family in any Islamic dynasty." [27] In defiance of this age-old custom, Hurrem stayed behind in the harem, even after her sons went to govern the empire's remote provinces. For the record, you still failed to answer my question, rephrasing; why in some theatre plays she's the only Hatun ranked consort who is erroneously addressed like Sultana? Before Hrrem Sultan, every consort was called hatun. Sorry, but the page you are looking for doesn't exist. There is a possibility of both titles therefore no title should be put in. In the 2003 TV miniseries, Hrrem Sultan, she was played by Turkish actress and singer Glben Ergen. Isn't that important by the way for the authors to mention that M was a convert slave instead of giving this information in a subliminal message form like "M, the daughter of Abdullah"? The problem with the sources you cite is that they're recent and are rooted in speculation, just as all of your post above. Concubine by definition is not a slave. [45] She has inspired paintings, musical works (including Joseph Haydn's Symphony No. Unless we have another source which gives us the sketch of positions of Sultan's consorts in Harem, the WEB SITE can be cited, because there is no mentioning of consort's positions and their status in their master's harem in Leslie's book. Because none of these people neither Ottomans nor foreign visitors were permitted into the inner circle of the imperial harem, which was surrounded by multiple walls, they largely relied on the testimony of the servants or courtiers or on the popular gossip circulating around Istanbul. With many other revolutionary movements like these, she had started an era in Ottoman Empire called the Reign of Women. But with the same decree, Mustafa was appointed to govern Konya (middle Anatolia). If you are not convinced we can try to get this on reliable sources noticeboard. She did not spend her last years in poverty, as her stepson, When Suleiman freed and married her, she became the Haseki Sultan (adding the word sultan to a woman's name or title indicated that she was a part of the dynasty). I dont see why someone should expand these articles as seen from the title and the heated discussion on chief consort below that even sources are not enough and I just cant do such long discussions. Let's figure it out.#sultantv #ottomanempire #magnificentcentury #ottomanempirehistory God willing, it will go away as soon as you return to the city. It is explicitly explained that the title "Haseki Sultan" was created when Hrrem married Suleyman. The poem in the show was written by Mustafa's companion, Yayha Bey. In real life, Yayha Bey also did write a poem too. So it was not Suleiman himse WebDeaths in June 2017 passed! However, her philanthropy is in contrast to this as she cared for the poor. My most sincere friend, my confidant, my very existence, my Sultan, my one and only love. However, some argue that she has Albanian roots. Not only is the phrasing leaving much to be desired, the conclusion is also a subjective speculation presented as a fact. Glbahar (given name) 1500s births. Also I would like to repeat a point I made earlier, the interview with her alleged descendant cannot be overlooked. Thank you From Khondoker Jobair. She frequently accompanied him as a political adviser. 1581 deaths. Dear Phso 2,I think i have made the issue clear which is about the royal woman "Mahidevran" and you shuould not have any doubt or confusion or Question regarding this subject. However, I added ""the most convincing theory"" was wrong I admit, therefore, I have changed that. Her love of poetry is considered one of the reasons behind her being heavily favoured by Suleiman, who was a great admirer of poetry. 190.218.117.86 (talk) 05:26, 3 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], Excuse me one more time. [4] Hurrem's influence on Suleiman was so significant that rumors circulated around the Ottoman court that the sultan had been bewitched.[5]. Since the empire lacked, until the reign of Ahmed I (16031617), any formal means of nominating a successor, successions usually involved the death of competing princes in order to avert civil unrest and rebellions. She probably acted as the sultan's advisor, wrote diplomatic letters to King Sigismund II Augustus of Poland (r.15481572) and patronized major public works (including the Haseki Sultan Complex and the Hurrem Sultan Bathhouse). The references you've cited present a clear inconsistency with defined Ottoman titles and therefore they are invalid.190.218.117.86 (talk) 16:57, 1 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], This is the point, whether she was a main wife or not. [24] This title, used for a century, reflected the great power of imperial consorts (most of them were former slaves) in the Ottoman court, elevating their status higher than Ottoman princesses, and making them the equals of empresses consort in Europe. Mahidevran and Mustafa lost one more time, now Selim (the second son of Hrrem) became the governor of the Manisa. In one of her letters to Suleiman, she informs him about the situation of the plague in the capital. In 1561, three years after Hurrem's death, the French author Gabriel Bounin wrote a tragedy titled La Soltane. She is called "Mahidevran Hatun Valide Sultan Mustafa" which is translated as "Empress Mahidevran mother of Prince Mustafa". [35], She built mosque complexes in Adrianopole and Ankara. Despite Mahidevrans warnings, he stayed in close contact with the other princes. The army, the governors and thepeople loved Mustafa dearly. Some sources say she moved to Topkap, not because of the fire, but as a result of her marriage to Suleiman. [22] Nurbanu died in December 1583. .mw-parser-output .brokenref{display:none}Cite error: There are tags on this page, but the references will not show without a {{reflist|group=note}} template (see the help page). In early modern Spain, she appears or is alluded to in works by Quevedo and other writers as well as in a number of plays by Lope de Vega. Please, if there's someone who can review this and make a decision quickly. And I have an interesting video for the newer.Today I want to tell you about Mahidevran Sultan, who she really is.Mahidevran Sultan is the mother of Shehzade Mustafa. 12-14 George Street [16]:131, Her joyful spirit and playful temperament earned her a new name, Hurrem, from Persian Khorram, "the cheerful one". This site uses cookies to improve your experience and to help show content that is more relevant to your interests. Takabeg (talk) 09:10, 24 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply], Someone needs to check the pronunciation: stress and vowel length. It turned out to be a certain Said Perizad Temryukoglu. Simply click 'close' in the top right corner to continue reading! She often suffered from lack of money 2 until Suleimans death; Sultan Selim II later increased her income to help her. Thanks to her intelligence, she acted as Suleiman's chief adviser on matters of state, and seems to have had an influence upon foreign policy and international politics. Here are some sources (regardless of their nature) they contradicts the motion that she wasn't called Sultan. I called both the contributor and the gallery to show any link to Rosne and so far I get none. In 2019, mention of the Russian origin of Hurrem Sultan was removed from the visitor panel near her tomb at the Sleymaniye Mosque in Istanbul at the request of the Ukrainian Embassy in Turkey.[48]. I am sorry but Facts do NOT leave room for doubts. In official account, not all consorts who was referred as SULTANA was legally married to Sultan nor was the Valide Sultan. [44] This tragedy marks the first time the Ottomans were introduced on stage in France. Interviews of "alleged descendant" are not reliable sources for an history article, and the burden of demonstrating their reliability falls upon the editor who want to introduce them, as is written at WP:INTERVIEWS. Partly. Its was Mahidevrans fault that Sultan Suleiman focused all his attention on Hrrem Sultana. Simply because Mahidevran was too proud and wan If interviews can be cited in Wikipedia for every living or dead person, why there is so much debate in this one? In 1543, right after the sudden death of Prince Mehmet, the womens war started upagain. Whether this phrase refers to a warm friendship between the Polish King and Ottoman Haseki, or whether it suggests a closer relation, the degree of their intimacy definitely points to a special link between the two states at the time. In the end, Mustafa was appointed to governAmasya (close to Persian border) while Mehmet moved to Manisa. The consorts were never to return to Istanbul unless their sons succeeded to the throne. For the series' last season, she is portrayed by Turkish actress Vahide Perin. [21], Around 1533/1534 (the exact date is unknown),[11] Suleiman married Hurrem in a magnificent formal ceremony. The Tatars may have first taken her to the Crimean city of Kaffa, a major centre of the Ottoman slave trade, before she was taken to Istanbul. It was the first complex constructed in Istanbul by Mimar Sinan in his new position as the chief imperial architect. Osmanl tarihi, Volume 2. The cast and crew are taking to the boards asPiraticus Rexopens at The Playhouse this week. In 1541, when Mehmet (Hrrems first son) reached the proper age to be local governor, tensionsbetween two women rose again. I'll sing your praises always She may not have been called that before Mustafa's coming of age, but when Mustafa became apparent heir, her Title (according to Ottoman traditions) automatically changed. Where she came from? The use of "sultan" for a consort came with the title Haseki, because the full title was Haseki Sultan (Devletl smetlu (given name) Haseki Sultn Aliyyet'-n Hazretleri)that is why. Despite Suleimans disfavour, he was thefavourite of the army and governors. [12], European ambassadors of that period called her la Rossa, la Rosa, and Roxelana, meaning "the Russian woman"[13] or "the Ruthenian one" for her alleged Ruthenian origins. For this reason, she has become a controversial figure in Ottoman history subject to allegations of plotting against and manipulating her political rivals. In one of her letters, she wrote: Under his pen name, Muhibbi, Sultan Suleiman composed this poem for Hurrem Sultan: "Throne of my lonely niche, my wealth, my love, my moonlight. According to reports of theVenetian ambassador, Mustafa was the whole joy in his mothers life, and Mahidevran was a highly effective figure in her sons court. hurrem. Adding something as controversial as ""she was a slave"" as can be seen here would only draw unnecessary attention of the fans and/or may or may not be alleged descendants, as your content was more like a statement rather than a neutral point of view. People have done a great job depicting fake ottoman culture. She built numerous mosques, madrasahs, hammams, and resting places for pilgrims travelling to the Islamic holy city of Makkah. 125.209.82.212 (talk) 20:52, 3 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], It is stated that kadins and hasekis carried equal rights in the harem, so why are you so passionate to call her sultana if she wasn't married to Suleyman? The change of titles was to differentiate a legal wife from a concubine/consort/unrecognized wife or however you want to call it. Hurrem Sultan makes plans to get rid of ehzade Mustafa and his mother Mahidevran Sultan as she sees them as a threat for the throne. Either way, this was another significant break from established customs, as Sultan Mehmed the Conqueror had specifically issued a decree to the effect that no women would be allowed to reside in the same building where government affairs were conducted. WebAccording to some reports he died of natural causes, while others say that Mahidevran, the mother of Sehzade Mustafa gave the order to kill Sehzade Mehmet because he could take Not all Haseki married the Sultan, if Hasekis can be called Sultana without marrying the Sultan so can the Bas Kadins. Mahidevran Turbesi6.jpg 315 470; 18 KB. We will review the memorials and decide if they should be merged. This new woman was the famous Hrrem Sultan. This tells how important and high ranking Birinci Kadins were (see any ottoman dictionary you like to see what Birinci Kadin means and what was their positions in early history of Ottoman.) [49] Artists Titian, Melchior Lorich, and Sebald Beham were all influential in creating a visual representation of Roxelana. At that time Mustafa was the third son of Suleiman, without significant importance. Hurrem was allowed to give birth to more than one son which was a stark violation of the old imperial harem principle, "one concubine mother one son," which was designed to prevent both the mother's influence over the sultan and the feuds of the blood brothers for the throne. Memorial ID. And what was her life like before she met Suleiman?For a long time, little was known about Mahidevran Sultan. Hurrem and Mahidevran had borne Suleiman six ehzades (Ottoman princes), four of whom survived past the 1550s: Mehmed, Selim, Bayezid, and Cihangir. As we can clearly see from your contribution list. Thank you. Hurrem's salary was 2,000 aspers a day, making her one of the highest-paid Hasekis. Above all, her being mother of heir apparent is not a popular culture but a fact. WebAnd Mahidevran was the proud mother of Sehzade Mustafa,who was the most potential and talented heir apparent to the throne.And Mahidevran was not like the other Consorts of If you are, however, still convinced that only Peirce's book is authentic source for the Ottomans, try putting this "concubinage" information in Ottoman Empire in details as explained by Leslie and see the response of Turks and Ottoman followers by yourself. Mustafa was later accused of causing unrest. This has to stop, no factual person will buy your theory. Scholars thus agree that European artists created a visual identity for Ottoman women that was largely imagined. Sorry cant find sources now that was about 12 years ago. Mahidevran wasn't a legal wife nor became the mother of a reigning sultan; you should read your own sources too, since it specifies the differences between a concubine and a legal wife.190.218.117.86 (talk) 20:28, 3 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], Sorry I am not making excuses I just refuse to believe that a "Brinci Kadin" wasn't called Sultana when she was serving as a mother of heir apparent and living in the Harem the same time title "Sultan" was started being used for Sultan's consorts. She wasn't able to smile as she once did, and she didn't show much generosity towards her If Sultana cannot be used for a "Birinci Kadin" then Hatun should also not be used. 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I think she was chief consort but later lost her position though she remained first wife. She became one of the most powerful and influential women in Ottoman history as well as a prominent and controversial figure during the era known as the Sultanate of Women. 125.209.82.212 (talk) 15:03, 3 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], We see that Birinci Kadin is what a woman who has bore a first child; you're overlooking what I said: it was Hurrem who married legally Suleyman and broke the 200 hundred tradition, not Mahidevran; in any case, she can't be called a sultana. I request moderators to change the title of this page to "Mahidevran" only and if they find it pertinent as well, to retain the speculations in a subtopic within the page. In 1520 after the death of Selim I, Suleiman moved to Istanbul to succeed his father, his court followed him afew weeks later. Address: 113.203.177.1 (talk) 18:52, 28 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], Dear Keivan.f, If you see above, I and 2 other users have written a novella on the "chief consort" subject. Subscribe to our free weekly newsletter and stay up to date on History of Royal Women's articles! Now Mahidevran became a chief consort as a mother of the only prince in the Empire. Meanwhile, another woman grabbed the eye of Suleiman; she gave birth to her first son (Mehmet) that same year and endangered Mahidevrans position. This new woman was the famous Hrrem Sultan. During the start of 15th century, the Ottoman dynasty was taking over the territories of its rivals more rapidly than before. Never before had a former slave been elevated to the status of the sultan's lawful spouse, a development which astonished observers in the palace and in the city. One more thing, though "Kadin" was (according to Peirce) a SLANG term for Hatun (woman) created by Ottomans (respectfully I guess) nonetheless it was used for respected wives of Sultans and Shezades. Even lowest ranking maids of the Harem were called Hatun out of respect. It is clear by your statement that you're being subjective about this: you're looking for an excuse rather than solid facts to call Mahidevran a sultana. Interviews are constantly being used in Wikipedia for every notable person, why neglect this one? You are not helping in maintaining the neutrality, rather imposing your opinions extracted from your sources. [42], It is believed that Hurrem was a cunning, manipulative and stony-hearted woman who would execute anyone who stood in her way. Mahidevran played a great role during her sons education as governor. 113.203.190.165 (talk) 02:19, 4 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], Why did popular culture assume, for example, that Hurrem was participant in the executions of Ibrahim Pasha and Mustafa? Moreover, she is referred to as "Mahidevran Sultan" in popular history books, TV series and touristic literature. She was the chief consort of Suleiman before the appearance of Hrrem Sultan. Popular culture calls her that way because in some theatre plays she's erroneously addressed like that, just as any work of FICTION. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. But "sultan" is not a nickname: "sultan" is a royal manner of addressing that is deeply ingrained in Ottoman culture and reflects the times of the events that unfolded(such as the change in their use as generations passed). A portrait of Roxelana in the British Royal Collection, c. 160070, A painting of Hurrem Sultan by a follower of Titian, 16th century, Roxelana and Sleyman the Magnificent by the German baroque painter Anton Hickel, (1780), Engraving by Johann Theodor de Bry, (1596), 16th century oil on wood painting of Hurrem Sultan, Tribute to Roxelana on 1997 Ukrainian postage stamp, Serlevha (illuminated frontispiece) from the Endowment Charter (Waqfiyya) pertaining to the architectural complex commissioned by Hrrem Sultan in the Aksaray district of Istanbul. The information given in this page reveals that despite being called addressed as a sultana she wasn't one, and before that edit came to be the page addressed her as hatun (and many others too [1] ), which is also a title she's been given in other sources. Whatever sources we can find, half of them supports the Hatun theory, the other half supports Sultan theory. He was very intelligent and had a strong politic education. I asked you to provide a source calling M's father Abdullah a Slave. Mahidevran was his most trustable advisor as well as chief of his harem. She had a Kira who acted as her secretary and intermediary on several occasions, although the identity of the kira is uncertain (it may have been Strongilah[39] or Esther Handali[citation needed]). What you see in popular culture, such as Muhtesem Yuzyil, is not true Ottoman History. [5] Michalo Lituanus wrote in the 16th century that "the most beloved wife of the present Turkish emperor mother of his first [son] who will govern after him, was kidnapped from our land". Hatun is not a Title at all. Selim II (r. 15661574) likely never held anything against Mahidevran personally. She was his mothers rival, not his. Selim II, as depicted in a m This did not, however, prevent Hurrem from wielding powerful political influence. 16th-century women. Though Hurrem must have been called Sultana first, the Ottoman dynamics simply couldn't allow such discrepancy within the Harem that once the title "Sultan" is started being used for favorite wives, that they don't called the first favorite with the same title. ?--Phso2 (talk) 21:39, 26 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply]. I oppose changing the title from Sultan to Hatun. Nedim Ardoa (talk) 08:32, 8 January 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply], The page Mahidevran Sultan should be moved to Mahidevran Glbahar Hatun because Mahidevran was never a concubine or a Haseki Sultan and Hrrem Sultan was the first Haseki Sultan.--Retrieverlove 1:09, 22 June 2014, According to Leslie P. Peirce, prior to the creation of the title Haseki Sultan for Hrrem Sultan, all the Ottoman consorts carried an alternative royal title, "Hatun".But Leslie P. 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